You expected to be thrown out. They had tried different methods of collective bargaining, which didn't seem to go over, aparently the company got it's own men in there and had their own ways, and I pressume that some of our leaders were more radical, they have to be, even today I mean in politics if someone wants to make a name or show, he's got to be different.

So the people that were the organizers of the group in Flint, of Flint people were naturally more radical. Now the organizers that came in as... from the union and stuff, I really didn't know any of them, and they were all kind of more or less branded as Reds, and trouble-makers.