I never remember any activity that a church took, and uh... that sort of thing, except the only thing you might say is, peacful approach or non-violence, and if you was any young man, you would kinda have to, I guess go over that, because you knew what you had to do to achieve if you wanted anything if it required violence, you were there for it, you know.

Show Transcript Speaker: Robert Gibbs. Interviewed by U-M Flint Labor History Project. Date of interview: 5-29-1980. Edited by Michael Van Dyke.

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