Well, it was always a trying experience trying to make ends meet. I mean, during the periods of inventory and model change you know, you'd go into debt. So the remainder of the year you'd try to work yourself out of debt. Well about the time you got out, you see then it would be time to get laid off again.

So in reality you were always treading water to keep from drowning. You never got on dry land. So it was always a trying experience to be sure. If not a trying experience from the point of view of the union. Activities in the union were really a godsend to a lot of us, because it give us an opportunity.

Soon as the strike was over I became active, was a steward and became a committeeman. And was active in the local union affairs. And it gave us an opportunity to expend some, not only of our energies, but to experiment around with some philosophy that maybe we had you know, see if we couldn't make it work. And we were successful in some of it.

So the union activity part of it was a godsend. It gave us a reason for living more then we'd ever had before.