This is kinda, I think of it today, and my wife says oh you're not really expecting me to believe this, but I remember at a particular time the older members were together and I was with them. And Reuther supposedly was coming to Flint and you probably remember seeing some of these old movies. Where these fellows carry violins and they weren't musicians.

And it was fact, and it's even been in the movie and so forth. But they claim that Reuther had his own musicians because they were carrying this violin cases. It would supposedly be the fact. That was during the strike. He would come into Flint.