Went down there, and of course they were lined up with people trying to get hired in and out the door, boy they had a line there about seventy-five guys long right outside the door then. So, everything stops, all this goes on, you know? He took the little piece of paper and looked at it, he called me son, he says, "son is this you?" He says, "Yeah."

He says, "don't you know better than that?" I said, "no."

He says, "you know what you done?"

I says, "Not really."

He says, "you joined the union," he says "how come you joined the union, don't you like your job?"

I says "yeah."

"Well," he says, "this is serious problem." He says, "look at all these people trying to get a job here," and he says, "you joined the union."

No he done all this real nice, you know, and he says something to the other guy about me, "did I work good," or so on and so forth like that, and the other guy said, "yeah."

Well, he says, I remember him saying, "what do you want me to do with him?" And uh... he said, "use your procedure." So he picked up the piece of paper and he says, "you know, you done a very serious thing," he says, "you ain't got a job no more," and he pointed his finger at me like that, and he banged his fist on the table and he says, "your fired you son of a bitch," just like that. I mean his whole attitude changed, just from a nice guy to a rotten guy.

And the first thing I said to him, I said to him, [inaudible] I said, "well, if I'm fired, when do I get paid?" Well, he says, "you don't get no pay."

I said, "you don't mean I'm fired really do you?"

"You're fired!" He says, "you see that door over there? You got about two minutes to get out that goddamn door," just like that.

Show Transcript Speaker: Robert Gibbs. Interviewed by U-M Flint Labor History Project. Date of interview: 5-29-1980. Edited by Michael Van Dyke.

Copyright: ©2002 Michigan State University.