Alright now, this is hersey see, but I, infact I knew of one guy, they uh... they got, well, we called them goons together and they had guns and everything and they were gonna shoot us outta there. We were to be shot out, infact in I knew one guy that was, that was in with this bunch and uh... but after they got the National Guard in there, you see, why, they didnt' dare to. Oh yeah, they'd of shot us out of there if they could of.

Show Transcript Speaker: Kenneth Gillian. Interviewed by U-M Flint Labor History Project. Date of interview: 7-15-1978. Edited by Michael Van Dyke.

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