I have absolutely, and tell the truth, seen them hire a hundred men and fire a hundred all the same day. That's what the thing's all about. If you never knew whether you had a job or not. And, at thirty-six cents an hour, of course, Chevrolet was cheap and at that time, the same time they was putting out sixty, sixty-five cars an hour, they were making money, or they, but they wouldn't pay more than...

Well, you start out... If you stayed there ten years, you might get up to fifty cents an hour. I think that during the strike I'd got up to, was that the job I was on, it was rated, not skilled trade but it was considered up... You could even be classified as what they called a straw boss back there then, at that time.

Well, I think I was getting either fifty, fifty-three cents, or something like that. Wasn't very much, I know that.