Then the company came along and organized the company union with their own hand picked representitives which you'd go to if you had a grievance which didn't uh... it was uh... more or less a lop-sided affair, of which the company got the bigger end of the stick.

There was always a certain amount of fear that kept, that would stick with you. They would come around and they'd want to know exactly uh... what you owed, how many was in your family, if you was buying a house, how many... how much you owed on that house, how much you was paying. They, they'd have questionnaires until after the union was in there and recognized, they stopped all of that.

Interviewer: What was the purpose of those?

Well, they could hold a stick over this man here that had a family and was buying a home, and they could more or less, well, threaten him to the extent of "you can't afford to lose your job, you've got to [inaudible]." Now I, being a single man with a home um... I could go down the road, but a man that was tied down with a family and a home, he had to have a different perspective on this deal.