Uh, we was on, we was on wages at the time. See? Alright, that the lowest man that we had six, seven men down the line on drill presses and so and so. And the job paid down there, the tail end only paid about twenty-six cents an hour, thrity cents, thirty-five, forty, forty-five and I was the leader. I had to push. See?

That's the way the job was organized. Pay was not equal. See? We all done the same work, handled the same materials, but it was just, not equal. They had a leader and a tail-end. See? A tail-end, if you hired in with [inaudible] you started at the bottom, at twenty-six cents an hour on up til you get up to the top. See.